Full length frame connectors? That is the question...

**Glenn_03Cobra** · 03-10-10, 10:06 PM

Is there a significant difference by installing full-length frame connectors on a street car over the shorter length.
What have you guys done?
What's the advantage of either?

**Markstre302** · 03-11-10, 03:24 AM

I had full lengths on my old fox and they made a huge difference. I would definitely recommend them for your car seeing as how it's high powered and the same basic chassis as the fox. It made it much more solid in the corners and even in a straight line. It really makes the suspension do all the work and removes the chassis deflection from the equation.

**Glenn_03Cobra** · 03-11-10, 07:17 AM

The shorter length connectors also remove chassis deflection. Do you know if there is a significant difference between the short-length and full-length connectors?

**SVTRonDogg** · 03-11-10, 09:06 AM

Yes there is a difference and I should have beaten you when I met you for not having done it.

I had Kenny Brown 'short' subframes on my 98, and it felt solid. Going to the MM Full Lengths on the 03 made a huge difference. The newer ones are even stiffer due to thicker tubing and reinforcement.

The only thing better is the Griggs Through the Floor pieces, but those require hacking up the floorpan.

Do the MM Full Lengths fo SHO.

**Glenn_03Cobra** · 03-11-10, 03:41 PM

Well you can smack me for not having a diff. brace as well... that's on the list too.

**blind** · 03-11-10, 06:06 PM

I run the MM FLSFC's on the fobra and the notch.

the difference is quite significant, I've heard it's even larger of a difference on cars with IRS, as the IRS can work a lot better without it's mounting points moving.

**SVTRonDogg** · 03-11-10, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Glenn_03Cobra

Well you can smack me for not having a diff. brace as well... that's on the list too.

You drive like a Grandma so no chance of breakage there.

**Glenn_03Cobra** · 03-11-10, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by SVTRonDogg

You drive like a Grandma so no chance of breakage there.

uh, ya.... that's me

**Glenn_03Cobra** · 03-11-10, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by blind

I run the MM FLSFC's on the fobra and the notch. the difference is quite significant, I've heard it's even larger of a difference on cars with IRS, as the IRS can work a lot better without it's mounting points moving.

I'm looking at the power coated FLSFCs.

**BigMike** · 03-12-10, 08:48 AM

I have Maximum Motorsports Full Length sub frames on my GT. Honestly, I couldn't tell the difference over stock.

**SVTRonDogg** · 03-12-10, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Glenn_03Cobra

I'm looking at the power coated FLSFCs.

Make it rain.

**blind** · 03-12-10, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Glenn_03Cobra

I'm looking at the power coated FLSFCs.

get the plain ones, the powder coating has to be stripped/ground off wherever they are welded (a LOT of places on the full lengths).

I got the plain ones on mine and just painted them primer undercoat ford gray to match the bottom of the car so they don't stand out...

**Glenn_03Cobra** · 03-12-10, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by blind

get the plain ones, the powder coating has to be stripped/ground off wherever they are welded (a LOT of places on the full lengths).

I got the plain ones on mine and just painted them primer undercoat ford gray to match the bottom of the car so they don't stand out...

What... you don't have neon lights under the car?

**SVTRonDogg** · 03-12-10, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Glenn_03Cobra

What... you don't have neon lights under the car?

Less Yappin more Subbin!

**blind** · 03-12-10, 04:49 PM

I installed mine at bottle blown with Tommy's help, btw. So they know how to do these and they have a 4 post lift.

**Glenn_03Cobra** · 03-12-10, 05:02 PM

Cool... I didn't know they could do it

**pronkie1** · 03-15-10, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by BigMike

I have Maximum Motorsports Full Length sub frames on my GT. Honestly, I couldn't tell the difference over stock.

Alot of the Bullitt guys runs these......The Bullitt comes stock with just bolt on sub frames that run only half of the chassis......Better than nothing........

**Glenn_03Cobra** · 03-15-10, 11:01 PM

But Frank... you have to get over 50mph to feel the difference

j/k

**pronkie1** · 03-16-10, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Glenn_03Cobra

But Frank... you have to get over 50mph to feel the difference

j/k

Glenn: I do drive the Bullitt over 50mph, not often, but I get there in one piece and no tickets......

**Glenn_03Cobra** · 03-16-10, 10:58 PM

I'll bet you do

I can feel my car twist and bend so, I plan to order mine in the next couple of days. I was hoping to have Jackie bring them home on Spring Break since Cal Poly is in the same town as MMS but, someone hit the Explorer we can't drive it... I'm surprised that Julie hasn't posted pics yet lol.

**pronkie1** · 03-18-10, 08:14 PM

Hope she wasn't hurt.....Car can be replaced, she can't be......

**Glenn_03Cobra** · 03-18-10, 09:05 PM

Jackie's back is bugging her a bit. We're hoping it's just tight muscles. We'll start another thread on the Explorer repair

**pronkie1** · 03-19-10, 07:32 PM

Sorry to hear that....I hurt my back and have been going to Dooman Chiropractic .....The name is now Camarillo Spine and Nervous Center...Its on the back side of Ralphs in Camarillo......Been going for two months .......He takes x-rays and shows you what he'll do over a period of time....If her pain continues, she might want to go when she out of school during the summer......